Protective spirit problem???? - Guild Wars Forums

xeon spirit · Nov 18, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

hi my friends

many great video tutorials descripe this skill as great help but i tried alot of ways and times to understand the help of this skill but no use

what i want to know :
what dose this skill do with famos build
and when the right timing to apply after /befor certain skill
i would like a full detail of this skill

and if i am wrong about this skill to be the solution for good builds plz correct me
and about this 10+2+3 attributes
how i can increase or add the amount of atribute

sory for bad writing and long thread but realy am very happy to have dsl connection to play this great game in the next week and thx to all of u whos put hand to create this full and complete guidins for all late player like me to catch every thing die in memories
i wish u luke

gremlin · Nov 18, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

As I understand it Protective spirit limits the amount of damage you can recieve to 10%.
Now if you have a character with say 500 health then you take a max of 50

Now here is where it works for farming builds.
If you limit your health to a smaller number "the classic is the 55 build"

If you have 55 health and can only take 10% damage and you have mending running at the same time.
You are gaining health faster than you can lose it.

Thats a general explanation as to how its supposed to work.

Of course degen health attacks still drain you and will kill you off quickly as will interupts to stop you keeping the skill running.

Against mellee mobs it still works.

Pretty sure an expert farmer will come along with a better explanation than mine in a while.

edit
Fogot the +2 +3 bit
I guess you mean runes, you can add + 1 +2 and +3 runes to your armor.
The +2 and +3 give you a reduction in health which can be offset by a rune of vigor.

Farmers dont want to offset this and use 5 +3 runes to reduce health enough to get the protective spirit to work better.

suggest visiting guildwiki and check out farming builds.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.pvxwiki.com/ "builds link"

Age · Nov 18, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Don't do this untill you understand how to play the role of Monk first and formost.

tijo · Nov 19, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by Age

Don't do this untill you understand how to play the role of Monk first and formost.

Age is right, after getting the game, the first thing you should do is play it a bit, get your first character to level 20. That way you'll have a better idea of how the game mechanics work and it will help understand how you cna use skills like protective spirit ot your advantage. Also as stated before, the wiki is your friend: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page or http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

arsie · Nov 19, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34

If your HP is 500 and you have Protective Spirit on, each hit you receive can only do a maximum of 50 damage (10%). If your HP is 55, each hit you receive can only do 5 damage (10%).

Most heals work by numbers, instead of percentages. So if you have 500hp, you need a spell that heals 50hp, to heal you back to normal. If you have 55hp, you need a spell that heals 5hp, to heal you back to normal.

So with low hp, you can keep your heals up constantly and will be harder to kill. Lower your hp with Superior Runes.

Spells that degen hp, or strip enchantment will kill someone with 55hp very fast. So this method works best where monsters do not do those things. Avoid Necromancers, Mesmers, some Monks, Burning, Bleeding, Knock-downs, Interrupts (quite a list...) to be able to use this.

You can increase and decrease attributes in your Skill selection window, and with Runes. You should learn a lot more about the game before you can start farming.

xeon spirit · Nov 19, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

gremlin,Age,tijo and arsie how i can thank u guys now i understand how it work, i didn't notice that 55 hp is realy important and am playing this game since 2004 but we have dail up conxt no dsl and caost 1$ per hour so next weak i am getting dsl service i saw many tut's in you tube i was dreaming every night to farm to improve my self and now i can't wait any more .....

thx again

BLOODGOAT · Nov 19, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Don't do this untill you understand how to play the role of Monk first and formost.

Meh. I created my 55 as quick as I could with no prior knowledge of playing monks, and up until 20 I was running a domination build with H/H. Why? I still don't know... but, if anything, deciding to just pick up these builds and throw myself out there helped me learned how the skills worked really fast, faster I would assume than if I'd just decided to be a normal monk in PvE.

Nov 18, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03	#1
xeon spirit Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Xeon Spirit Island Guild: XEON SPIRIT PIRATES Profession: W/Mo	Protective spirit problem???? hi my friends many great video tutorials descripe this skill as great help but i tried alot of ways and times to understand the help of this skill but no use what i want to know : what dose this skill do with famos build and when the right timing to apply after /befor certain skill i would like a full detail of this skill and if i am wrong about this skill to be the solution for good builds plz correct me and about this 10+2+3 attributes how i can increase or add the amount of atribute sory for bad writing and long thread but realy am very happy to have dsl connection to play this great game in the next week and thx to all of u whos put hand to create this full and complete guidins for all late player like me to catch every thing die in memories i wish u luke

Nov 18, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27	#2
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	As I understand it Protective spirit limits the amount of damage you can recieve to 10%. Now if you have a character with say 500 health then you take a max of 50 Now here is where it works for farming builds. If you limit your health to a smaller number "the classic is the 55 build" If you have 55 health and can only take 10% damage and you have mending running at the same time. You are gaining health faster than you can lose it. Thats a general explanation as to how its supposed to work. Of course degen health attacks still drain you and will kill you off quickly as will interupts to stop you keeping the skill running. Against mellee mobs it still works. Pretty sure an expert farmer will come along with a better explanation than mine in a while. edit Fogot the +2 +3 bit I guess you mean runes, you can add + 1 +2 and +3 runes to your armor. The +2 and +3 give you a reduction in health which can be offset by a rune of vigor. Farmers dont want to offset this and use 5 +3 runes to reduce health enough to get the protective spirit to work better. suggest visiting guildwiki and check out farming builds. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page http://www.pvxwiki.com/ "builds link" Last edited by gremlin; Nov 18, 2007 at 10:32 PM // 22:32..

Nov 18, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56	#3
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	Don't do this untill you understand how to play the role of Monk first and formost.

Nov 19, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34	#5
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	If your HP is 500 and you have Protective Spirit on, each hit you receive can only do a maximum of 50 damage (10%). If your HP is 55, each hit you receive can only do 5 damage (10%). Most heals work by numbers, instead of percentages. So if you have 500hp, you need a spell that heals 50hp, to heal you back to normal. If you have 55hp, you need a spell that heals 5hp, to heal you back to normal. So with low hp, you can keep your heals up constantly and will be harder to kill. Lower your hp with Superior Runes. Spells that degen hp, or strip enchantment will kill someone with 55hp very fast. So this method works best where monsters do not do those things. Avoid Necromancers, Mesmers, some Monks, Burning, Bleeding, Knock-downs, Interrupts (quite a list...) to be able to use this. You can increase and decrease attributes in your Skill selection window, and with Runes. You should learn a lot more about the game before you can start farming.

Nov 19, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#6
xeon spirit Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Xeon Spirit Island Guild: XEON SPIRIT PIRATES Profession: W/Mo	gremlin,Age,tijo and arsie how i can thank u guys now i understand how it work, i didn't notice that 55 hp is realy important and am playing this game since 2004 but we have dail up conxt no dsl and caost 1$ per hour so next weak i am getting dsl service i saw many tut's in you tube i was dreaming every night to farm to improve my self and now i can't wait any more ..... thx again